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Old 11-16-2005, 10:55 AM  #21
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Originally Posted by pbmom
This is one of the things I'm talking about, if you can't grow up and take the subject seriously, stay off the thread!!!

The adults in this forum are trying to have an adult discussion about ways to educate the public and keep people from getting hurt. If you don't have anything to contribute to that, then don't post. Go post garbage in a garbage friendly thread, not here.

I may not be an adult but i still think of safty first that is why i started this thread not everybody is like morphien or how ever you spell it
Old 11-16-2005, 11:30 AM  #22
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I think its funny how people get all upset when some injury occurs in paintball... but when the quarter back of Utah and a lineman or something both get injured in one game... no big deal.. its part of the sport.

So why the big deal in paintball. I would say 95% of all major injuries in paintball are due to people not following the prescribed rules and guidelines of the sport. The other 5% would be accounted to mistakes, equipment flaws, and true accidents.

PB MOM. what do you suggest we do. Do you want to hold a public saftey meeting at addicts, have advertisements on T.v. etc?

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Old 11-16-2005, 12:58 PM  #23
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👍 Good idea

If you do decide on doing that i will bring some new players so they know the heads up 🙂
Old 11-16-2005, 01:13 PM  #24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PBmom
The adults in this forum are trying to have an adult discussion about ways to educate the public and keep people from getting hurt. If you don't have anything to contribute to that, then don't post.


Well Said PBM, and this is the attitude we need to have with saftey. Wear you mask on the field and use a sock or don't play. Practice good "gun" Saftey.
Quote:
Originally Posted by krispy
So why the big deal in paintball. I would say 95% of all major injuries in paintball are due to people not following the prescribed rules and guidelines of the sport.

When some kid takes off his mask and shots himself in the eye it draws a lot of public attention. Why???
Because in other sports you break things, arms, legs, back, ribs or tear tissue, but you get to keep both of your eyes. Eyes seem to be on top of the list as things not to lose. 😁

High School Sports over 3 years I tore up both knees, broke my hand twice, Broke 3 ribs, 2 concussions, tore a groin , hyperextended my elbow. It took six rolls of athletic tape just to get me on the field.

I have been playing PB almost every weekend for 3 years durring the spring and summer and I have one scar from a hot PB on my arm. no other serious injurys. Plus I am 43 now not 17

This sport is mis-represented to the public all the time. have you ever seen PB on TV. I saw one on the sit come "according to Jim" They never wore their masks, the actors had to have their faces showing. I know why the producers did it, but it paints a bad example of PB.

It's like I said before....we look like the military, we pretend to be like the military. That scares some people. Almost any new and unknown extream sport will come under public fire.

Way Back in the late 70' and early 80 skateboreders were making the first run at being popular, we took a load of crap just building a ramp.

Lacross players have a tough time getting schools to sponsor them.
Base jumping has been outlawed.

We as a PB comunity need to band togather stand up for ourselves and make every effort to play safe. Make every effort to show the General public it's fun and safe. 😉

PR

Last edited by Pale Rider : 11-16-2005 at 01:16 PM.
Old 11-16-2005, 01:22 PM  #25
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Packer
I may not be an adult but i still think of safty first that is why i started this thread not everybody is like morphien or how ever you spell it

Josh--I didn't mean to offend you by implying that your opinion isn't important just because you aren't an adult, I meant that this is a serious subject and the childish responses need to go away.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krispy
PB MOM. what do you suggest we do. Do you want to hold a public saftey meeting at addicts, have advertisements on T.v. etc?

I don't know what the best avenue is, I'm still trying to figure that out, but I do know that we need to get the word out. If doing a public safety meeting is the answer, then I'm willing to host it.
Old 11-16-2005, 01:26 PM  #26
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MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT 😕


http://apg.cfw2.com/article.asp?content_id=6777 🙄

Im sick of all this bad rep on paintball 😠

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Old 11-16-2005, 01:38 PM  #27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Packer
MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT 😕
http://apg.cfw2.com/article.asp?content_id=6777 🙄
Im sick of all this bad rep on paintball 😠

Josh Great find, Thought I would cut and past it for you. 😁


How Safe is Paintball?

By Bob McGuire


For years, I have been hearing that paintball is safer than golf, swimming, and many other benign sports. Yet, for years I have been watching accident reports cross my desk. These reports are routinely passed on from our insured paintball field operators, to the insurance companies who pay their claims. I have been asked many times by people, who have read about the superior safety record of paintball, to confirm that it is safer than baseball, softball, or other sports in which youngsters commonly engage. "How can any sport that includes racing thru the woods shooting projectiles at each other, not result in injuries?" is a typical question.

My short answer: "Paintball has been proven to be safe when the games are run properly, and the right equipment is used." The bottom line about paintball accidents, and much supporting material, can be found on the website: www.paintball.org.

Of course there have been accidents involving paintball. Some were serious, especially if they involved eye injuries. There have even been two fatalities, involving propellant cylinders with apparently improperly installed valves.

However, the ASTM "standard practice for paintball field operation" outlines the manner in which paintball games should be conducted. There is also an ASTM standard which details the requirements for paintball goggles. The third ingredient for safe paintball would be the fill station operator. As an industry, or as an individual paintball business owner, we should be certain that whoever fills the marker bottles, knows what they are doing. Serious injuries have been very rare where paintball games were properly conducted, proper paintball goggles were utilized, and where the bottles had been properly inspected and filled by a trained fill station operator.

Years ago, I received a call from a prominent paintball player who was visiting Japan. I was aware that US air force personnel played paintball on Okinawa, but I was told that paintball was illegal in Japan. Strangely, it seemed that airsoft was permitted in Japan. This player was assisting in the effort to "legalize" paintball in Japan, and had provided Japanese government officials with materials to show the safety record of paintball in the USA. Without warning, I was expected to produce evidence to support a claim that paintball was safer than golf, airsoft, and (perhaps) eating your lunch. I could not do it. I got out of the situation by informing the involved parties (truthfully) that we had no data on paintball safety. We were merely processors of paper.

This incident resulted from a widespread misconception about paintball safety statistics. It apparently stems from an old article, which compared the safety records of paintball and many other sports activities. At the time, little was known about paintball safety, and paintball was not included in any rigorous comparative studies. Taking the results of a credible safety comparison of popular sports, an attempt was made to add paintball statistics. Unfortunately, the person who injected the paintball "data" did not do a fair job. The basis of comparison was supposed to have been lost time injuries. However, in the new comparison, paintball related sprained ankles were not included as accidents. Sprained ankles often result in a lost day of work, and are not uncommon in paintball.

I can speak to the issues of paintball safety, and I believe that properly conducted games can be very safe. However, not all games are properly supervised, and this fact has come to the attention of the Center of Disease Control's Center for Injury Prevention. A recent article, Injuries from paintball game related activities in the United States, indicates that there may be a safety problem involving paintball "home play". I agree, at least in part, with the findings in this article. Details of current paintball safety issues will be posted on the website: www.paintballindustry.org.

The time is fast approaching when we will need a method to effectively instruct fill station operators as to hazmat gas transference, and bottle inspection procedures. The valve twist test requirement must become as commonplace as barrel plug warnings. Most importantly, the players themselves should be educated prior to purchasing equipment or bottle fills. Watch for details next month, in NewSplat!
Old 11-16-2005, 01:39 PM  #28
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Packer
MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT 😕


http://apg.cfw2.com/article.asp?content_id=6777 🙄

Im sick of all this bad rep on paintball 😠



🙁 your NOT the only one
Old 11-16-2005, 01:42 PM  #29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pale Rider
Josh Great find, Thought I would cut and past it for you. 😁


How Safe is Paintball?

By Bob McGuire


For years, I have been hearing that paintball is safer than golf, swimming, and many other benign sports. Yet, for years I have been watching accident reports cross my desk. These reports are routinely passed on from our insured paintball field operators, to the insurance companies who pay their claims. I have been asked many times by people, who have read about the superior safety record of paintball, to confirm that it is safer than baseball, softball, or other sports in which youngsters commonly engage. "How can any sport that includes racing thru the woods shooting projectiles at each other, not result in injuries?" is a typical question.

My short answer: "Paintball has been proven to be safe when the games are run properly, and the right equipment is used." The bottom line about paintball accidents, and much supporting material, can be found on the website: www.paintball.org.

Of course there have been accidents involving paintball. Some were serious, especially if they involved eye injuries. There have even been two fatalities, involving propellant cylinders with apparently improperly installed valves.

However, the ASTM "standard practice for paintball field operation" outlines the manner in which paintball games should be conducted. There is also an ASTM standard which details the requirements for paintball goggles. The third ingredient for safe paintball would be the fill station operator. As an industry, or as an individual paintball business owner, we should be certain that whoever fills the marker bottles, knows what they are doing. Serious injuries have been very rare where paintball games were properly conducted, proper paintball goggles were utilized, and where the bottles had been properly inspected and filled by a trained fill station operator.

Years ago, I received a call from a prominent paintball player who was visiting Japan. I was aware that US air force personnel played paintball on Okinawa, but I was told that paintball was illegal in Japan. Strangely, it seemed that airsoft was permitted in Japan. This player was assisting in the effort to "legalize" paintball in Japan, and had provided Japanese government officials with materials to show the safety record of paintball in the USA. Without warning, I was expected to produce evidence to support a claim that paintball was safer than golf, airsoft, and (perhaps) eating your lunch. I could not do it. I got out of the situation by informing the involved parties (truthfully) that we had no data on paintball safety. We were merely processors of paper.

This incident resulted from a widespread misconception about paintball safety statistics. It apparently stems from an old article, which compared the safety records of paintball and many other sports activities. At the time, little was known about paintball safety, and paintball was not included in any rigorous comparative studies. Taking the results of a credible safety comparison of popular sports, an attempt was made to add paintball statistics. Unfortunately, the person who injected the paintball "data" did not do a fair job. The basis of comparison was supposed to have been lost time injuries. However, in the new comparison, paintball related sprained ankles were not included as accidents. Sprained ankles often result in a lost day of work, and are not uncommon in paintball.

I can speak to the issues of paintball safety, and I believe that properly conducted games can be very safe. However, not all games are properly supervised, and this fact has come to the attention of the Center of Disease Control's Center for Injury Prevention. A recent article, Injuries from paintball game related activities in the United States, indicates that there may be a safety problem involving paintball "home play". I agree, at least in part, with the findings in this article. Details of current paintball safety issues will be posted on the website: www.paintballindustry.org.

The time is fast approaching when we will need a method to effectively instruct fill station operators as to hazmat gas transference, and bottle inspection procedures. The valve twist test requirement must become as commonplace as barrel plug warnings. Most importantly, the players themselves should be educated prior to purchasing equipment or bottle fills. Watch for details next month, in NewSplat!



THANKS I wouldnt have thought of that still alittle new to me 😁
Old 11-16-2005, 02:52 PM  #30
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i just dont think your going to educate anyone through a forum on the internet
 
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