My new RT Pro!!!

Bryce Eden · 09-18-2004, 10:01 AM

But the freestyle can't shoot that fast with out drop off, nothing can. The reason the mag doesn't get shootdown is its patented reg that fills then regulates instead of regulates as it fills, its much faster but its also why mags get shoot up instead of shoot down. If you chrono a mag like a normal marker at 290fps with an input of 850psi when you start shooting fast your velocity climbs to about 320fps. Thats why mags must be chronoed differently.

Nate_O'Banion · 09-18-2004, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryce Eden

But the freestyle can't shoot that fast with out drop off, nothing can. The reason the mag doesn't get shootdown is its patented reg that fills then regulates instead of regulates as it fills, its much faster but its also why mags get shoot up instead of shoot down. If you chrono a mag like a normal marker at 290fps with an input of 850psi when you start shooting fast your velocity climbs to about 320fps. Thats why mags must be chronoed differently.

actually lots of guns can shoot that fast without dropoff, matrix, intimidator, angel, i have a vid somewhere of a bushy doing it for proof, pretty much every high end electro can do it, it just depends on the air systems

Bryce Eden · 09-18-2004, 07:22 PM

None of those can shoot that fast without drop off, and I have proof.

Here is an Alias Intimidator

The drop off is barrly noticeable when firing, but it is there.

Bryce Eden · 09-18-2004, 07:53 PM

Here is a better graph

As long as the marker has an inline reg it WILL have some minor shootdown at 20BPS, although AKA is close to fixing that problem.

Nate_O'Banion · 09-18-2004, 08:24 PM

k, what type of tank, was being used in that alias test? (not the output pressure, but tank regs vary in flow amounts just as much as a hpr will), in that test picture you show there are several good regs missing, the check it powerstation (the bob long torp is a crappy copy of this), cp reg, the new angel mini-regs, ect, how can i upload vids to this site?, and i wil show you a nideo a a angel shooting above 20 wiht no droppoff whatsoever

Bryce Eden · 09-19-2004, 08:47 AM

Just post a link to the vid. The tank used was an AGD Flatline. The only way you could get a marker to shoot that fast with out any drop whatsoever would be to take the reg off and use a high quality adjustable tank, that might do it as long as the marker didn't have a seperate LPR, I'll have to test that this week.
I am tempted to start an official data/debate thread so this one isn't taken even more off topic.

DanBirdsall · 09-19-2004, 01:06 PM

Hey....Check out the link on post #23 and then go to the video that says AGD 4.0 Testing and see what they have to say at the end of the vidoe.. lol..

Nate_O'Banion · 09-19-2004, 02:32 PM

here is a video that shows the awesomeness of a mag lol
(im not posting this video to rag on mags it just shows funny stuff about them)
http://baproshop.com/10man/BAxtrememagvid.wmv

Nate_O'Banion · 09-19-2004, 03:10 PM

http://www.angelservicecenter.com/video.htm
there are some extremely fast vids on that page, they are angels using halos and eggs modified for intelllifeed, watch the streams and you can see no droppoff

Bryce Eden · 09-19-2004, 06:36 PM

OK, I have to admit that is fast and with no real shoot down that I could see from that far away, but at 27.2413BPS that thing is one heck of a blender.

I can't tell how fast they are actually shooting in the videos because the audio isn't that good, I get about 17BPS in sound forge graphs but that could be wrong. I got the 27.2413BPS by deviding the time by the number of balls they say they shot, not by graphing.